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	<description>Noah Sarna on the issues, cases and events of interest to British Columbia&#039;s educational community</description>
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		<title>Comment on Student leader at Western strikes out in defending harassment claim, loses Charter argument by Rick Telfer</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/student-leader-at-western-strikes-out-in-defending-harassment-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-71432</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Telfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 06:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost in the court record, of course, is the other 95% of the story around the events in question. The decision of the Speaker/Chief Returning Officer, Fiona Simpson, was later overturned by the student society&#039;s Elections Appeal Board following a torrential revolt from the student society&#039;s membership against what appeared, to many, as incompetence and collusion on her part. Ms. Simpson was, after all, very friendly with (and a coworker of) the only other candidate in the election (Sarah Detombe) and issued several nonsensical rulings in relation to the election.

Of course, I am an activist who has, from time to time, been very critical of the university administration -- especially in my role as a member of the university&#039;s Senate. Indeed, freedom of information requests revealed that Western, at the highest levels, had been following my trajectory and stated advocacy objectives very closely. Thus, it was no surprise that the administration sided with the administration-friendly Ms. Simpson despite her mean-spirited treatment of me.

It was certainly surprising that, in the end, the student society itself threw out the accusation of &quot;harassment,&quot; as did Campus Police, but university administrators -- under the university&#039;s panoptic &quot;Code of Student Conduct&quot; -- found a way to make the accusation stick, in part by all but ignoring the harassment complaints that I had filed. Since then, the university has tried to block countless information requests that I have submitted about its &quot;investigation&quot; into the matter -- an investigation that was led by an &quot;external&quot; lawyer (Elizabeth Hewitt) who, it turns out, used to sit on the Board of Governors at one of Western&#039;s affiliated colleges. &quot;External&quot; indeed.

As for the court&#039;s decision -- in which one of the three judges dissented strongly in regards to the first argument -- my counsel and I believe strongly that it the court erred in regards to all three arguments. An appeal is likely because the precedents established by the court&#039;s decision are simply too dangerous -- especially for the wrongly/maliciously accused, activists/dissenters, and the autonomy of student societies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost in the court record, of course, is the other 95% of the story around the events in question. The decision of the Speaker/Chief Returning Officer, Fiona Simpson, was later overturned by the student society&#8217;s Elections Appeal Board following a torrential revolt from the student society&#8217;s membership against what appeared, to many, as incompetence and collusion on her part. Ms. Simpson was, after all, very friendly with (and a coworker of) the only other candidate in the election (Sarah Detombe) and issued several nonsensical rulings in relation to the election.</p>
<p>Of course, I am an activist who has, from time to time, been very critical of the university administration &#8212; especially in my role as a member of the university&#8217;s Senate. Indeed, freedom of information requests revealed that Western, at the highest levels, had been following my trajectory and stated advocacy objectives very closely. Thus, it was no surprise that the administration sided with the administration-friendly Ms. Simpson despite her mean-spirited treatment of me.</p>
<p>It was certainly surprising that, in the end, the student society itself threw out the accusation of &#8220;harassment,&#8221; as did Campus Police, but university administrators &#8212; under the university&#8217;s panoptic &#8220;Code of Student Conduct&#8221; &#8212; found a way to make the accusation stick, in part by all but ignoring the harassment complaints that I had filed. Since then, the university has tried to block countless information requests that I have submitted about its &#8220;investigation&#8221; into the matter &#8212; an investigation that was led by an &#8220;external&#8221; lawyer (Elizabeth Hewitt) who, it turns out, used to sit on the Board of Governors at one of Western&#8217;s affiliated colleges. &#8220;External&#8221; indeed.</p>
<p>As for the court&#8217;s decision &#8212; in which one of the three judges dissented strongly in regards to the first argument &#8212; my counsel and I believe strongly that it the court erred in regards to all three arguments. An appeal is likely because the precedents established by the court&#8217;s decision are simply too dangerous &#8212; especially for the wrongly/maliciously accused, activists/dissenters, and the autonomy of student societies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the Charter apply to universities? by Lavender</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/does-the-charter-apply-to-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-69296</link>
		<dc:creator>Lavender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 05:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah Sarna, thank you for your blog. It helps my friend to navigate through the issues he has with university in Ontario. Lots of hurdles there, would you also know of any caselaws regarding denied access to education in the case of disability? Also any Ontario Education Law pointers?

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah Sarna, thank you for your blog. It helps my friend to navigate through the issues he has with university in Ontario. Lots of hurdles there, would you also know of any caselaws regarding denied access to education in the case of disability? Also any Ontario Education Law pointers?</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Author by Kate</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/about/comment-page-1/#comment-69258</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I would like to know what can be done legally if a university closes down a PhD program because of reviewer concerns? It seems like they would permit students to finish their degrees but then shut down the program...would this not devalue my degree? 

Thanks!

Kate</description>
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<p>I would like to know what can be done legally if a university closes down a PhD program because of reviewer concerns? It seems like they would permit students to finish their degrees but then shut down the program&#8230;would this not devalue my degree? </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Kate</p>
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		<title>Comment on BCTF sues chair of BC College of Teachers for defamation by article blog</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/bctf-sues-chair-of-bc-college-of-teachers-for-defamation/comment-page-1/#comment-53448</link>
		<dc:creator>article blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bookmarked...&lt;/strong&gt;

It was wholly out of the blue when I discovered the link at Reddit, however I was pleased I did...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bookmarked&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>It was wholly out of the blue when I discovered the link at Reddit, however I was pleased I did&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The long, winding road between the principal&#8217;s office and the courtroom by Jane Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/the-long-winding-road-between-the-principals-office-and-the-courtroom/comment-page-1/#comment-48525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked your thought that a lawyer should try to resolve an issue in the earlier stage before taking it to the courtroom. I think a good lawyer is one who not only understand the rules and law but also the reputation and scope of disputes. If a someone can resolve a small dispute in house than he surely be able Handle big legal ISSUE.
Thanks  NOAHSARNA for such a great article on education law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked your thought that a lawyer should try to resolve an issue in the earlier stage before taking it to the courtroom. I think a good lawyer is one who not only understand the rules and law but also the reputation and scope of disputes. If a someone can resolve a small dispute in house than he surely be able Handle big legal ISSUE.<br />
Thanks  NOAHSARNA for such a great article on education law.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the Charter apply to universities? by noahsarna</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/does-the-charter-apply-to-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-46282</link>
		<dc:creator>noahsarna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that.  Can you send me a link to the policy or more information about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that.  Can you send me a link to the policy or more information about it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the Charter apply to universities? by Jim</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/does-the-charter-apply-to-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-45663</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The official policy of the York University Tribunal is to not communicate directly with representative counsel. This is official policy. They will ignore your lawyer and only communicate with you. Charter violation? Uh huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official policy of the York University Tribunal is to not communicate directly with representative counsel. This is official policy. They will ignore your lawyer and only communicate with you. Charter violation? Uh huh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New report critical of universities&#8217;, student unions&#8217; commitment to free speech by noahsarna</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/new-report-critical-of-universities-student-unions-commitment-to-free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-44920</link>
		<dc:creator>noahsarna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 00:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  Interestingly, the report does not refer to this incident, though it mentions and criticizes several other measures taken by universities and student societies in connection with the Arab-Israeli conflict (both pro- and anti-Israeli).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  Interestingly, the report does not refer to this incident, though it mentions and criticizes several other measures taken by universities and student societies in connection with the Arab-Israeli conflict (both pro- and anti-Israeli).</p>
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		<title>Comment on New report critical of universities&#8217;, student unions&#8217; commitment to free speech by SSlinn</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/new-report-critical-of-universities-student-unions-commitment-to-free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-44912</link>
		<dc:creator>SSlinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 00:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fall the Canadian Association of University Teachers (CAUT) released its report on free speech and academic freedom issues arising from a conference held at York University in 2009.  Here is the link to the brief description of the report: http://www.caut.ca/pages.asp?page=1041</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fall the Canadian Association of University Teachers (CAUT) released its report on free speech and academic freedom issues arising from a conference held at York University in 2009.  Here is the link to the brief description of the report: <a href="http://www.caut.ca/pages.asp?page=1041" rel="nofollow">http://www.caut.ca/pages.asp?page=1041</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on University Act amended to subject on-campus businesses to property tax by noahsarna</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/university-act-amended-to-subject-on-campus-businesses-to-property-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-37545</link>
		<dc:creator>noahsarna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question!  You&#039;re right - it will likely affect leases with private businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question!  You&#8217;re right &#8211; it will likely affect leases with private businesses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on University Act amended to subject on-campus businesses to property tax by K</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/university-act-amended-to-subject-on-campus-businesses-to-property-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-20708</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will this change affect leases that University&#039;s engage in with private businesses?  For example, if the University hires a private contractor to do food servicing.

If those are still tax exempt too, then this change will serve to decrease competition on campus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this change affect leases that University&#8217;s engage in with private businesses?  For example, if the University hires a private contractor to do food servicing.</p>
<p>If those are still tax exempt too, then this change will serve to decrease competition on campus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SCC grants leave to hear appeal in Access Copyright dispute by Jeremy Costin</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/scc-grants-leave-to-hear-appeal-in-access-copyright-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-19213</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Costin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of the U.S. Copyright Act, s.107 (Fair use) offers a very broad exemption:

&quot;...the fair use of a copyrighted work ... teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include — 

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
...&quot;

It is important to note that the US generally works in a model of infringing or fair use, whereas Canada relies on a levy system.  Therefore, when they carve out an exception to infringement (and I usually prefer to think of copyright as carving a protection out of the public domain, but anyway). they carve it out completely.  The counterattack is to narrow the applicability of that exception, as they&#039;ve done with the DMCA, the Sonny Bono Term Extension (see Eldred v. Ashcroft), etc.  

In Canada, we don&#039;t broaden or narrow the exception so much as vary the levies charged by the central collection bodies depending on the nature of the dealing.  Radio stations pay one levy, DJs at private gatherings pay another, and schools and libraries are subject to other classes of levies.

What is interesting to note is the fourth characterization of the &quot;fair use&quot; in the U.S. Act:

&quot;(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.&quot;

This seems to go to the heart of Access Copyright&#039;s argument.  The Canadian Act does not give carte blanche to educational institutions, but rather a narrow set of educational permissions.  This seems to create a very large area in which the Board, Access Copyright, etc., can allow certain use if a levy is paid, and otherwise puts a heavy onus on the educational institution to frame its use within the fair dealing exceptions.  Michael Geist has been calling for a radical opening of these exceptions for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of the U.S. Copyright Act, s.107 (Fair use) offers a very broad exemption:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the fair use of a copyrighted work &#8230; teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include — </p>
<p>(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;<br />
&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It is important to note that the US generally works in a model of infringing or fair use, whereas Canada relies on a levy system.  Therefore, when they carve out an exception to infringement (and I usually prefer to think of copyright as carving a protection out of the public domain, but anyway). they carve it out completely.  The counterattack is to narrow the applicability of that exception, as they&#8217;ve done with the DMCA, the Sonny Bono Term Extension (see Eldred v. Ashcroft), etc.  </p>
<p>In Canada, we don&#8217;t broaden or narrow the exception so much as vary the levies charged by the central collection bodies depending on the nature of the dealing.  Radio stations pay one levy, DJs at private gatherings pay another, and schools and libraries are subject to other classes of levies.</p>
<p>What is interesting to note is the fourth characterization of the &#8220;fair use&#8221; in the U.S. Act:</p>
<p>&#8220;(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems to go to the heart of Access Copyright&#8217;s argument.  The Canadian Act does not give carte blanche to educational institutions, but rather a narrow set of educational permissions.  This seems to create a very large area in which the Board, Access Copyright, etc., can allow certain use if a levy is paid, and otherwise puts a heavy onus on the educational institution to frame its use within the fair dealing exceptions.  Michael Geist has been calling for a radical opening of these exceptions for years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SCC grants leave to hear appeal in Access Copyright dispute by Jeremy Costin</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/scc-grants-leave-to-hear-appeal-in-access-copyright-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-19211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Costin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a quick note, the Canadian Copyright Act carves out its exceptions through &quot;fair dealing&quot; as opposed to the United States&#039; &quot;fair use.&quot;  While pointing out the difference is often an exercise in pedantry, the application to educational use often turns on those nuanced differences.  If I can pull my head above the work that you can guess I&#039;m buried in at the moment, I&#039;ll read the case and post some commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a quick note, the Canadian Copyright Act carves out its exceptions through &#8220;fair dealing&#8221; as opposed to the United States&#8217; &#8220;fair use.&#8221;  While pointing out the difference is often an exercise in pedantry, the application to educational use often turns on those nuanced differences.  If I can pull my head above the work that you can guess I&#8217;m buried in at the moment, I&#8217;ll read the case and post some commentary.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How educational institutions should respond to the riot by mark69</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/how-educational-institutions-should-respond-to-the-riot/comment-page-1/#comment-18038</link>
		<dc:creator>mark69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this.  As an American, watching the vigilantism, the reported threats to UBC by a wealthy contributor to withdraw funding if a student isn&#039;t expelled, the boycotts of companies that employed (or had previously employed) those accused in the riots, I was beginning to fear for Canadian sanity.

You guys missed out on slavery and its sequels, the Ku Klux Klan and public lynchings.  You also missed out on the Puritans with their taste for minding other people&#039;s business, their tendency to publicly enforced hysteria and their hunger for punishment, the more severe the better.  

Theocracy went out of fashion in the future US after the 1692 witchcraft trials (although some have lately been trying to bring it back) but the politics of hysteria in the US never really died.

It&#039;s just that I thought Canada was sort of exempt from all that.  

Now, we see a campaign to destroy the medical practice of the doctor father of a 17-year old high school student, apparently because he is judged to be a bad father (by people who don&#039;t need to know him, of course).  I guess Canada isn&#039;t exempt at all, any more than it&#039;s exempt from alcohol-fueled riots after championship sports events.  But we already knew about that part, didn&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.  As an American, watching the vigilantism, the reported threats to UBC by a wealthy contributor to withdraw funding if a student isn&#8217;t expelled, the boycotts of companies that employed (or had previously employed) those accused in the riots, I was beginning to fear for Canadian sanity.</p>
<p>You guys missed out on slavery and its sequels, the Ku Klux Klan and public lynchings.  You also missed out on the Puritans with their taste for minding other people&#8217;s business, their tendency to publicly enforced hysteria and their hunger for punishment, the more severe the better.  </p>
<p>Theocracy went out of fashion in the future US after the 1692 witchcraft trials (although some have lately been trying to bring it back) but the politics of hysteria in the US never really died.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that I thought Canada was sort of exempt from all that.  </p>
<p>Now, we see a campaign to destroy the medical practice of the doctor father of a 17-year old high school student, apparently because he is judged to be a bad father (by people who don&#8217;t need to know him, of course).  I guess Canada isn&#8217;t exempt at all, any more than it&#8217;s exempt from alcohol-fueled riots after championship sports events.  But we already knew about that part, didn&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Author by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/about/comment-page-1/#comment-13588</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I would like to know if there is a way we can complaint against the university for raising the fees by 250% without proper notice? 

Andrew</description>
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<p>I would like to know if there is a way we can complaint against the university for raising the fees by 250% without proper notice? </p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Author by Alex</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/about/comment-page-1/#comment-13363</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 13:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Noah,

I had a look at your law blog - very well done! I&#039;m also
interested in commercial law and have studied accident and
insurance issues as well as partnerships.

Best of luck,
Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Noah,</p>
<p>I had a look at your law blog &#8211; very well done! I&#8217;m also<br />
interested in commercial law and have studied accident and<br />
insurance issues as well as partnerships.</p>
<p>Best of luck,<br />
Alex</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the Charter apply to universities? by Elizabeth Bonham</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/does-the-charter-apply-to-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-11712</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Bonham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 05:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this with great interest. Our child has a case moving through the appeal process now at a major Canadian university. Thank you for your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this with great interest. Our child has a case moving through the appeal process now at a major Canadian university. Thank you for your post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CFS BC branch fails to prevent opponent at Kwantlen from filling director&#8217;s seat by John O</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/cfs-bc-branch-fails-to-prevent-opponent-at-kwantlen-from-filling-directors-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-10628</link>
		<dc:creator>John O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that publicly questioning membership should necessarily be deleterious to CFS-BC&#039;s interests. It&#039;s perfectly reasonable to keep accountable all of the organizations we work with, whether they are business relationships like health &amp; dental plans or food suppliers or lobbying groups we belong to. Keeping their efficacy on the table is vital to keeping them effective. &quot;The interests of the federation&quot; are what the democratic structures are there to deliberate on.

Given how much the KSA has cost CFS in legal fees and bad press, I think it would have been in the best interests of CFS to let KSA leave in the 2008 referendum. 

Kelsey, I&#039;d encourage you to take a bigger picture view of the tuition question, as well. A university is more than it&#039;s finances. Uni administrators write up the budgets and do their damnedest to present increases as necessary. Compare faculty hires to admin hires and see what past increases have paid for. Has your uni made use of past increases as well as they should have? Where does the buck stop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that publicly questioning membership should necessarily be deleterious to CFS-BC&#8217;s interests. It&#8217;s perfectly reasonable to keep accountable all of the organizations we work with, whether they are business relationships like health &amp; dental plans or food suppliers or lobbying groups we belong to. Keeping their efficacy on the table is vital to keeping them effective. &#8220;The interests of the federation&#8221; are what the democratic structures are there to deliberate on.</p>
<p>Given how much the KSA has cost CFS in legal fees and bad press, I think it would have been in the best interests of CFS to let KSA leave in the 2008 referendum. </p>
<p>Kelsey, I&#8217;d encourage you to take a bigger picture view of the tuition question, as well. A university is more than it&#8217;s finances. Uni administrators write up the budgets and do their damnedest to present increases as necessary. Compare faculty hires to admin hires and see what past increases have paid for. Has your uni made use of past increases as well as they should have? Where does the buck stop?</p>
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		<title>Comment on CFS BC branch fails to prevent opponent at Kwantlen from filling director&#8217;s seat by Kelsey H</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/cfs-bc-branch-fails-to-prevent-opponent-at-kwantlen-from-filling-directors-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-10307</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelsey H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 07:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting subject raised from this ruling is in respect to the duties of directors to organizations.

I serve on a University Board of Governors (I know this is the Unversity Act, so different legislation than the Society Act..), and I am expected to make decisions in the best interest of the University.  However, as an elected student representative sitting on the Board of Governors, when they put forward a motion to reduce tuition, an interesting conflict arises for elected representatives:

-  If I am to make a decision in the best interest of the University, then a vote to raise tuition is clearly the best vote as it supports the University financially.

- But if I am to make a decision as a representative of students&#039; interests, then I should be voting to oppose tuition increases.

I&#039;ve heard insinuations from people that favour either of these viewpoints.  Some even accuse student Board of Governors of being in a &#039;conflict of interest&#039; when they vote on tuition... surely the University Act of BC contemplated for students to act in the best interests of their constituency when they provided them voting spots on the board... no?

The CFS situation with Kwantlen is similar to this, in that CFS-BC is claiming that by campaigning to leave the CFS, Derek Robertson was acting against the best interest of CFS-BC.  In contrast, the KSA looks at him as an elected representative who should be able to speak freely against the interests of the federation since he was elected by Kwantlen students to represent their viewpoints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting subject raised from this ruling is in respect to the duties of directors to organizations.</p>
<p>I serve on a University Board of Governors (I know this is the Unversity Act, so different legislation than the Society Act..), and I am expected to make decisions in the best interest of the University.  However, as an elected student representative sitting on the Board of Governors, when they put forward a motion to reduce tuition, an interesting conflict arises for elected representatives:</p>
<p>-  If I am to make a decision in the best interest of the University, then a vote to raise tuition is clearly the best vote as it supports the University financially.</p>
<p>- But if I am to make a decision as a representative of students&#8217; interests, then I should be voting to oppose tuition increases.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard insinuations from people that favour either of these viewpoints.  Some even accuse student Board of Governors of being in a &#8216;conflict of interest&#8217; when they vote on tuition&#8230; surely the University Act of BC contemplated for students to act in the best interests of their constituency when they provided them voting spots on the board&#8230; no?</p>
<p>The CFS situation with Kwantlen is similar to this, in that CFS-BC is claiming that by campaigning to leave the CFS, Derek Robertson was acting against the best interest of CFS-BC.  In contrast, the KSA looks at him as an elected representative who should be able to speak freely against the interests of the federation since he was elected by Kwantlen students to represent their viewpoints.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UVSS triumphs over CFS in dispute over petition to withdraw membership by Kelsey H</title>
		<link>http://educationlawblog.ca/uvss-triumphs-over-cfs-in-dispute-over-petition-to-withdraw-membership/comment-page-1/#comment-10303</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelsey H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great coverage here of the legal issues!

The CFS has a long history of legal battles with student associations.  Titus Gregory&#039;s paper &quot;In Solidarity for their Own Good&quot; has a great appendix describing many of the legal disputes that have occurred between student associations and the CFS:

http://uoleaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/solidarity-paper.pdf

In particular, I believe that CFS membership rules to leave may become a great example of what the &quot;oppression remedy&quot; could be used for under the Canada Not-For-Profit Corporations Act that will come into effect in a few years.  The CFS holds the sole authority to define what the rules to leave are, and has, recently, made them incredibly complex and difficult for student unions to attain.  At some points, these requirements must hit the criteria of &#039;oppressive&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great coverage here of the legal issues!</p>
<p>The CFS has a long history of legal battles with student associations.  Titus Gregory&#8217;s paper &#8220;In Solidarity for their Own Good&#8221; has a great appendix describing many of the legal disputes that have occurred between student associations and the CFS:</p>
<p><a href="http://uoleaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/solidarity-paper.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://uoleaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/solidarity-paper.pdf</a></p>
<p>In particular, I believe that CFS membership rules to leave may become a great example of what the &#8220;oppression remedy&#8221; could be used for under the Canada Not-For-Profit Corporations Act that will come into effect in a few years.  The CFS holds the sole authority to define what the rules to leave are, and has, recently, made them incredibly complex and difficult for student unions to attain.  At some points, these requirements must hit the criteria of &#8216;oppressive&#8217;.</p>
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